Comments on: Fake following in social media: Yay or Nay? http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/ Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:52:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Domain Search http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-426 Domain Search Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:54:37 +0000 http://michaelfruchter.com/blog/?p=454#comment-426 Agree with SoxGal : Some people may not be interested in quickly growing an audience or having a follower/following base that is reciprocal. Agree with SoxGal : Some people may not be interested in quickly growing an audience or having a follower/following base that is reciprocal.

]]> By: Domain Search http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-435 Domain Search Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:54:37 +0000 http://michaelfruchter.com/blog/?p=454#comment-435 Agree with SoxGal : Some people may not be interested in quickly growing an audience or having a follower/following base that is reciprocal. Agree with SoxGal : Some people may not be interested in quickly growing an audience or having a follower/following base that is reciprocal.

]]> By: usegraymatter http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-425 usegraymatter Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:51:24 +0000 http://michaelfruchter.com/blog/?p=454#comment-425 Interesting. I happen to agree with you (and Ed K.). The key differentiator on the debate seems to be in how you view Twitter (business network or personal network)...and likewise with the other online "social" venues. It's when you use it as both business and personal the water starts to get muddy, for me at least.<br>Personally, I'd rather focus my following/followers on building a community of people who value what the others in that community tweet (or post, or put on a wall, etc). <br>This is also why i try to steer clear of politics and religion on these sites (though I may be among the few who do and sometimes I find it hard to hold my screech...er, tweet in). Those posts can be incredibly divisive and those conversations aren't why I'm engaged in any of those online mediums (though that may be the kind of community/conversations another person may want to find/build).<br>I'm still assessing twitter....initially following only a small few...looking for value in their postings. Hoping to provide value in mine. The marketer in me wants to know why a valued follower might decide to unfollow (akin to "listening to your customers"). But if others were to be cautious and selective about who they "allow" to follow them...I may not be able to freely choose to follow some of the high-profile tweeters b/c they might decide my tweets are not valuable.<br>It's a circular discussion, I suppose. <br>The answer obviously depends upon individual perspective: Is Twitter a tool or a toy?<br>Do you mind sifting through your twitterlog of tweets to find the golden eggs? Interesting. I happen to agree with you (and Ed K.). The key differentiator on the debate seems to be in how you view Twitter (business network or personal network)…and likewise with the other online “social” venues. It's when you use it as both business and personal the water starts to get muddy, for me at least.
Personally, I'd rather focus my following/followers on building a community of people who value what the others in that community tweet (or post, or put on a wall, etc).
This is also why i try to steer clear of politics and religion on these sites (though I may be among the few who do and sometimes I find it hard to hold my screech…er, tweet in). Those posts can be incredibly divisive and those conversations aren't why I'm engaged in any of those online mediums (though that may be the kind of community/conversations another person may want to find/build).
I'm still assessing twitter….initially following only a small few…looking for value in their postings. Hoping to provide value in mine. The marketer in me wants to know why a valued follower might decide to unfollow (akin to “listening to your customers”). But if others were to be cautious and selective about who they “allow” to follow them…I may not be able to freely choose to follow some of the high-profile tweeters b/c they might decide my tweets are not valuable.
It's a circular discussion, I suppose.
The answer obviously depends upon individual perspective: Is Twitter a tool or a toy?
Do you mind sifting through your twitterlog of tweets to find the golden eggs?

]]> By: usegraymatter http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-434 usegraymatter Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:51:24 +0000 http://michaelfruchter.com/blog/?p=454#comment-434 Interesting. I happen to agree with you (and Ed K.). The key differentiator on the debate seems to be in how you view Twitter (business network or personal network)...and likewise with the other online "social" venues. It's when you use it as both business and personal the water starts to get muddy, for me at least.<br>Personally, I'd rather focus my following/followers on building a community of people who value what the others in that community tweet (or post, or put on a wall, etc). <br>This is also why i try to steer clear of politics and religion on these sites (though I may be among the few who do and sometimes I find it hard to hold my screech...er, tweet in). Those posts can be incredibly divisive and those conversations aren't why I'm engaged in any of those online mediums (though that may be the kind of community/conversations another person may want to find/build).<br>I'm still assessing twitter....initially following only a small few...looking for value in their postings. Hoping to provide value in mine. The marketer in me wants to know why a valued follower might decide to unfollow (akin to "listening to your customers"). But if others were to be cautious and selective about who they "allow" to follow them...I may not be able to freely choose to follow some of the high-profile tweeters b/c they might decide my tweets are not valuable.<br>It's a circular discussion, I suppose. <br>The answer obviously depends upon individual perspective: Is Twitter a tool or a toy?<br>Do you mind sifting through your twitterlog of tweets to find the golden eggs? Interesting. I happen to agree with you (and Ed K.). The key differentiator on the debate seems to be in how you view Twitter (business network or personal network)…and likewise with the other online “social” venues. It's when you use it as both business and personal the water starts to get muddy, for me at least.
Personally, I'd rather focus my following/followers on building a community of people who value what the others in that community tweet (or post, or put on a wall, etc).
This is also why i try to steer clear of politics and religion on these sites (though I may be among the few who do and sometimes I find it hard to hold my screech…er, tweet in). Those posts can be incredibly divisive and those conversations aren't why I'm engaged in any of those online mediums (though that may be the kind of community/conversations another person may want to find/build).
I'm still assessing twitter….initially following only a small few…looking for value in their postings. Hoping to provide value in mine. The marketer in me wants to know why a valued follower might decide to unfollow (akin to “listening to your customers”). But if others were to be cautious and selective about who they “allow” to follow them…I may not be able to freely choose to follow some of the high-profile tweeters b/c they might decide my tweets are not valuable.
It's a circular discussion, I suppose.
The answer obviously depends upon individual perspective: Is Twitter a tool or a toy?
Do you mind sifting through your twitterlog of tweets to find the golden eggs?

]]> By: ryangraves http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-424 ryangraves Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:48:16 +0000 http://michaelfruchter.com/blog/?p=454#comment-424 While I don't want to be bogged down with unsubscribe notifications it would be nice to see who follows and unfollows in a short period of time. There is a large difference between somebody who follows for a month then decides not to follow and someone who follows for a day and unfollows. Maybe if Twitter let you set your customized period of time between follow and unfollow in order to drive a notification. But we all know Twitter isn't exactly feature rich! Just an idea. For more ideas check out my blog: <a href="http://ryanagraves.com">http://ryanagraves.com</a> While I don't want to be bogged down with unsubscribe notifications it would be nice to see who follows and unfollows in a short period of time. There is a large difference between somebody who follows for a month then decides not to follow and someone who follows for a day and unfollows. Maybe if Twitter let you set your customized period of time between follow and unfollow in order to drive a notification. But we all know Twitter isn't exactly feature rich! Just an idea. For more ideas check out my blog: http://ryanagraves.com

]]> By: ryangraves http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-433 ryangraves Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:48:16 +0000 http://michaelfruchter.com/blog/?p=454#comment-433 While I don't want to be bogged down with unsubscribe notifications it would be nice to see who follows and unfollows in a short period of time. There is a large difference between somebody who follows for a month then decides not to follow and someone who follows for a day and unfollows. Maybe if Twitter let you set your customized period of time between follow and unfollow in order to drive a notification. But we all know Twitter isn't exactly feature rich! Just an idea. For more ideas check out my blog: <a href="http://ryanagraves.com" rel="nofollow">http://ryanagraves.com</a> While I don't want to be bogged down with unsubscribe notifications it would be nice to see who follows and unfollows in a short period of time. There is a large difference between somebody who follows for a month then decides not to follow and someone who follows for a day and unfollows. Maybe if Twitter let you set your customized period of time between follow and unfollow in order to drive a notification. But we all know Twitter isn't exactly feature rich! Just an idea. For more ideas check out my blog: http://ryanagraves.com

]]> By: KarenSwim http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-423 KarenSwim Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:15:23 +0000 http://michaelfruchter.com/blog/?p=454#comment-423 I would love to know when I am being unfollowed. As you noted, I want to provide value to my network. If my posts are missing the mark I want the opportunity to fine tune my messaging. Social media for me is a marketing tool and with all marketing tactics you want to track and measure your results. Would my ego take a temporary hit - yep? However, that does not stand in the way of the value of being able to measure my results. I would love to know when I am being unfollowed. As you noted, I want to provide value to my network. If my posts are missing the mark I want the opportunity to fine tune my messaging. Social media for me is a marketing tool and with all marketing tactics you want to track and measure your results. Would my ego take a temporary hit – yep? However, that does not stand in the way of the value of being able to measure my results.

]]> By: KarenSwim http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-432 KarenSwim Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:15:23 +0000 http://michaelfruchter.com/blog/?p=454#comment-432 I would love to know when I am being unfollowed. As you noted, I want to provide value to my network. If my posts are missing the mark I want the opportunity to fine tune my messaging. Social media for me is a marketing tool and with all marketing tactics you want to track and measure your results. Would my ego take a temporary hit - yep? However, that does not stand in the way of the value of being able to measure my results. I would love to know when I am being unfollowed. As you noted, I want to provide value to my network. If my posts are missing the mark I want the opportunity to fine tune my messaging. Social media for me is a marketing tool and with all marketing tactics you want to track and measure your results. Would my ego take a temporary hit – yep? However, that does not stand in the way of the value of being able to measure my results.

]]> By: edkohler http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-422 edkohler Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:19:31 +0000 http://michaelfruchter.com/blog/?p=454#comment-422 Great write-up. If people don't understand that they're losing their audience they'll never improve the quality of their messages. Great write-up. If people don't understand that they're losing their audience they'll never improve the quality of their messages.

]]> By: justinkorn http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2008/08/fake-following-yay-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-421 justinkorn Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:34:12 +0000 http://michaelfruchter.com/blog/?p=454#comment-421 NAY NAY NAY. Specifically for FriendFeed, I've written up <a href="http://blog.justinkorn.com/index.php/2008/08/picking-your-subscriptions-aka-friends-wisely-on-friendfeed/">how I pick my subscriptions</a> and I stick by it. Subscribe to those that provide you information you are interested in. If someone subscribes to you, do them the favor of checking out their feed, but I don't think you should be obligated to subscribe back.<br><br>A pause feature might be useful, but in the end, I think people would abuse it. NAY NAY NAY. Specifically for FriendFeed, I've written up how I pick my subscriptions and I stick by it. Subscribe to those that provide you information you are interested in. If someone subscribes to you, do them the favor of checking out their feed, but I don't think you should be obligated to subscribe back.

A pause feature might be useful, but in the end, I think people would abuse it.

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